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Dear Stephen,</div>
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Thank you for the email. I downloaded the latest version from the website and tried again. But I am getting a different error message. </div>
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<b>From:</b> Stephen King - STFC UKRI <stephen.king@stfc.ac.uk><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 18, 2024 11:18<br>
<b>To:</b> Rini P R <rinipr@stud.ntnu.no><br>
<b>Cc:</b> users@sasview.org <users@sasview.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [SasView Users] Inquiry regarding fitting the SAXS data</div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Please could you install release version 5.0.6 and try that.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Kind regards,</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> users <users-bounces@lists.sasview.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rini P R via users<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 April 2024 10:12<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Butler <butlerpd@udel.edu><br>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Hi Paul,</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Thank you very much for your email and for providing all the helpful links. It helps a lot!</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I have found that the Raspberry model is not suitable for my systems, so I have created a plugin model using the power law and a cylinder. However, I needed to include the hayter_msa as structure
factor. The tutorial showed how to include the structure factor in these plugin models, and I tried to follow the same steps.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">But when I tried to do that I am getting an error message in Sasview as </span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I tried to multiply the plugin model with structure factor, but I do not get the screen that I am supposed to get. </span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I am using sasview 6.0.0a1 which I downloaded from the github. </span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Could you please look into it and tell me what is the source of the error?</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: black;">Best regards,</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black;"><b>From:</b> Paul Butler <</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: blue;"><u><a href="mailto:butlerpd@udel.edu" id="OWA2b04ee37-3836-d531-ce25-577f9d5369af" class="OWAAutoLink" data-loopstyle="linkonly" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">butlerpd@udel.edu</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black;">><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 17, 2024 16:46<br>
<b>To:</b> Rini P R <</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: blue;"><u><a href="mailto:rinipr@stud.ntnu.no" id="OWAdb41413e-cf43-9825-0c13-10791254b7dc" class="OWAAutoLink" data-loopstyle="linkonly" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">rinipr@stud.ntnu.no</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black;">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> </span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: blue;"><u><a href="mailto:users@sasview.org" id="OWAa8097ded-bd0d-bbdb-9a55-62122d58f149" class="OWAAutoLink" data-loopstyle="linkonly" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">users@sasview.org</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black;"> <</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: blue;"><u><a href="mailto:users@sasview.org" id="OWAe3908d46-abd1-a81e-076f-1ba6be0c296d" class="OWAAutoLink" data-loopstyle="linkonly" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">users@sasview.org</a></u></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black;">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [SasView Users] Inquiry regarding fitting the SAXS data</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black;">Just to clarify your question. I assume you are saying that the “raspberry model,” which was developed by the Pozzo group at the University of Washington to model pickering emulsions
is not suitable for your case and you have developed your own plugin model?</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black;">Or is the question how to write a plugin model based on a model you have developed theoretically? Or is the question that your plugin does not allow you to multiply a structure factor
with it?. Or are you wanting to write your own structure factor plugin? If in fact that next to last is what you are looking for, that should be pretty straightforward. Basically you will need to define the effective radius for interactions in your plugin
model as described here: </span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: blue;"><u><a href="https://www.sasview.org/docs/user/qtgui/Perspectives/Fitting/plugin.html#form-factors" id="OWAe8a31d0d-cac0-66f4-1fba-a7817e6b404c" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-loopstyle="linkonly" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">https://www.sasview.org/docs/user/qtgui/Perspectives/Fitting/plugin.html#form-factors</a></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black;">If you also want to be able to include the beta approximation option you will also need to calculate the F(Q) in your model (currently would require a c model) and declare that Fq
is available in the python part of your model as described here: </span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: blue;"><u><a href="https://www.sasview.org/docs/user/qtgui/Perspectives/Fitting/plugin.html#structure-factors" id="OWA927ffa03-51ce-2196-3ff7-339c14dfdea6" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-loopstyle="linkonly" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">https://www.sasview.org/docs/user/qtgui/Perspectives/Fitting/plugin.html#structure-factors</a></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black;">Finally, if you want to create a structure factor you just need to include that flag (structure_factor=true) as explained here:
</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: blue;"><u><a href="https://www.sasview.org/docs/user/qtgui/Perspectives/Fitting/plugin.html#model-definition" id="OWA5660cf61-1d45-215f-8eb4-def78ca5d3f7" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-loopstyle="linkonly" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">https://www.sasview.org/docs/user/qtgui/Perspectives/Fitting/plugin.html#model-definition</a></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black;">Also we now have a tutorial on writing custom models available here:
</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: blue;"><u><a href="https://www.sasview.org/downloads/creating_custom_fitting_models_in_sasview_v5.pdf" id="OWAe279bd94-c135-837c-8ecc-edff0907163b" class="OWAAutoLink" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-loopstyle="linkonly" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">https://www.sasview.org/downloads/creating_custom_fitting_models_in_sasview_v5.pdf</a></u></span></p>
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 5:11 AM Rini P R via users <<span style="color: blue;"><u><a href="mailto:users@lists.sasview.org" id="OWAcd9d27e0-9a60-aa09-d857-bb2926e7d644" class="OWAAutoLink" data-loopstyle="linkonly" style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">users@lists.sasview.org</a></u></span>>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I hope this message finds you well. My name is Rini and I am a PhD candidate in the Department of Physics at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology, Trondheim, Norway.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I have a specific question and I'm not sure who to contact. We are working with Pickering emulsions made with food-grade materials and have encountered challenges in fitting the data from our recent
SAXS experiment with the available models. We have concluded that combining a structure factor with our current plugin model will enable us to fit our data and extract the information we need.</span></p>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Could you please direct me to the right person or help me get in touch with someone who can assist us with modifying the model as described?</span></p>
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